Sunday, 20 April 2025
All the Gurus of the east and west misled the seeking world by glorifying the 'I'.+
By reading repeatedly my postings and reflecting and reasoning deeply, help to create a mental yardstick in your subconscious.+
Sexual intercourse is not the means to Self-realization.+
Q:~ Natalja von Wascinski-Schubert- Santthosh Kumaar, I fully agree, yet as a bridge -- that is as a lesson to teach the pure unity of the Self and nonduality -- intercourse of two polarities (male and female principles), that is joining together to pure (sinless) oneness in true love and respect=appreciation, human sex could become at its peak a very faint resemblance and remembrance of the overwhelming state of Atma?
Santthosh Kumaar:~ Suppose if you had the same idea in a dream, the dream becomes unreal when waking takes place. Similarly, the waking becomes unreal when Advaitic wisdom dawns. The Advaitic wisdom dawns when you realize the ‘Self’ is not you, but the Self is the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.
From the standpoint of the invisible Soul, the Self, the world in which you exist is merely an illusion. Thus, all the happenings within the illusion are bound to be an illusion. Until ignorance is there, the world in which you exist prevails as a reality.
When the ignorance vanishes through Advaitic wisdom than the world in which you exist which you thinks as reality becomes an illusion.
Sage Goudapada quotes from the Upanishads: ~ "There's no plurality here"; "The Soul through its powers appears to be many"; "those who are attached to the creation or production or origination go to utter darkness"; "the unborn is never reborn, for what can produce it?”
Sage Goudapada’s rational exposition of Advaita:~ Whatever is seen, whether external or internal, whether by the ordinary persons or yogis, is unreal.
Thus, whatever you have seen, known, believed, and experienced as a person within the waking experience is bound to be an illusion created out of consciousness. Thus, the invisible Soul, which is present in the form of the consciousness alone, is real and eternal.
Consciousness is ever-present. Without consciousness, the world in which you exist ceases to exist. Consciousness is Self-evident. It is not established by extraneous proofs. It is not possible to deny consciousness, because it is the very essence of the one who denies it. Consciousness is the basis of all kinds of knowledge, presuppositions, and proofs. Consciousness is everything. Thus, consciousness is the ultimate truth or Brahman.
Sexual intercourse is not the means to Self-realization. Those who believe sexual intercourse is a means to Self-realization will permanently remain in the prison of ignorance.
Sexual intercourse is a reality within the dualistic illusion or Maya. The invisible Soul, the Self, is hidden by dualistic illusion or Maya. The invisible and unborn Soul, the Self, is hidden by the universe, which is a dualistic illusion or Maya, because the Soul or consciousness is the cause of the whole dualistic illusion or Maya.
Remember:~
Sex belongs to the domain of duality. What is the use of discussing celibacy and sex in the Atmic path when the Atma is genderless because it is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence?
No one becomes a Gnani by taking sannyasa or wearing religious robes or by mastering the scriptures.+
One need not renounce worldly life and become a sanyasi or monk. One need not retire from their business or corporate job and become a Guru; all these religious and yogic propagated outdated ideas have to be discarded to realize the truth of true existence.
Do not become a slave of all these outdated religious and yogic ideas; they are not meant for those who are seriously seeking the truth. There is no need to follow anyone. Self–realization becomes easy if you independently walk your path.
Atmic path is your own path. You have to tread the path alone to reach it alone Finally, nothing remains as reality other than the Atma or the Soul.
Stop emotionally and sentimentally getting stuck with the Guru.
That is why Bhagavan Buddha: ~ “Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Sage Sankara was a Gnani. Most of the modern masters are not Gnani. And you have to understand that to be a Gnani is one thing; to be a Guru is totally different.
Out of a million people, perhaps one is a Gnani. Most of the Self-realized decide to remain silent, seeing the difficulty that whatever they have realized is impossible to convey in any possible way to others; seeing that not only is it difficult to convey, it is bound to be misunderstood too.
A Gnani never claims himself as a Gnani; he guides the seekers, not posing himself as a Guru, and he does not force his wisdom on others. A Gnani is not a religious person or a Yogi.
One need not roam from one mountain to another, from one ashram to another, or meet gurus or yogis to get Gnana. One can get Gnana and become a Gnani wherever one lives.
We are all searching for truth within the illusion, not being aware that the illusory universe in which we exist is created out of a single stuff, which is the invisible Soul, the Self.
The invisible Soul is present in the form of consciousness. Thus, searching for the truth within an illusory universe with the illusory self is bound to be an illusion.
The illusory universe is created and sustained, and finally dissolves as consciousness. There is no second thing that exists other than consciousness. Consciousness is the ultimate truth or Brahman, or God in truth.
No one becomes a Gnani by taking sannyasa or wearing religious robes or by mastering the scriptures or by identifying with the religious symbol. Religious robes and religious symbols are not the means to Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana.
Blind faith is an obstacle in the pursuit of truth. The seeker should not waste his time on it; he should primarily reflect on the Soul, the Self, not on the ‘I’.
The invisible nd unborn Soul, which is present in the form of the Spirit or consciousness, is ever ever-formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.
Sruti says: ~ "brahmavit brahmaiva bhavati" - He who knows Brahman becomes Brahman Itself. In the Advaita understanding of this statement, the "becoming" is only metaphorical. It is not as if something that was not Brahman suddenly becomes Brahman. Rather, "realizing Brahman" means a removal of ignorance about one's own essential nature as Brahman. Thus, to "know Brahman" is to "be Brahman".
The one who has realized the identity with the invisible Soul, the Self, which is Brahman, is a Gnani, one who is liberated even while embodied. Such a realization should not and cannot just be a literal understanding of the Upanishadic Mahavakya.
A Gnani has realized the ultimate truth of the identity with the invisible Soul, the Self. Thus, moksha is not a result of ritual action (path of karma a) or of devotional service (path of bhakti). These paths are egocentric, therefore, they will not help anyway to get rid of the ignorance. In fact, moksha is not a result of anything, for it always exists.
All that is required is the removal of ignorance. The path of wisdom helps the seeker to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana.
Ashtavakra Samhita: ~"The man of knowledge, though living like an ordinary man, is contrary to him, and only those like him understand his state. ~ Santthosh Kumaar
The karmic account is never-ending because one has to be born again and again to reap his good or bad karma.+
Those Gurus who propagate Karma as the means to Self-realization belong to religion and yoga, not Spirituality.
When the Self is not the form, but the Self is formless, then whose karma? The one that is born lives and dies is not the Self; then the question of karma does not arise.
You are the false self (ego) within the false experience (waking). Thus, whatever action and inaction, past, present, and future belong to the waking experience, which is the dualistic illusion.
What happens to the dream entity that did good karma in the dream world, and it died and reincarnated in the next life, and suffered, but when waking takes place, the dream becomes unreal.
The waking becomes unreal when the waking entity (you) realizes that it itself (you) is not the Self, but the Self is the invisible and unborn Soul, which witnesses the appearance and disappearance of the three states in succession.
Thus, neither the karma of the waking entity nor the karma of the dream entity has meaning because the Self is neither the waking entity nor the dream entity, but the Self is the Soul or consciousness.
You are not the Self because you are the birth entity; you are bound by form, time, and space,e whereas the Self’ is the invisible and unborn Soul, which is birthless and deathkess then how the karma theory has any meaning when the karma theory based on the false self (birth entity) and false experience (waking state).
The karma theory is a religious fable meant for the people who are fully immersed in the practical life and practical world, believing the experience of birth, life, death, and the world as reality.
If the Self is birthless, then what values will the karma theory have because it is based on birth, life, death, and rebirth?
Thus, as per my conviction, the Karma theory is merely a religious and yogic fable.
Yes, Ramana, J. Krishnamurti, and Nisargadatta all died of cancer-related illness. It does not make any difference if they died of cancer or not of cancer or any illness. Even Lord Krishna died a painful death. Death is a certain cause of death is irrelevant to a Gnani. When the invisible Soul, the Self, is birthless, then it is deathless.
A Gnani is unconcerned with death because he is fully aware that the illusion is only a passing show.
Thus, the karma theory has nothing to do with the invisible and unborn Soul, the Self.
Thus, people’s painful death cannot be taken as evidence because the Soul, the Self, is ever deathless because it was unborn because it is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.
The karmic account is never-ending because one has to be born again and again to reap their good or bad karma carried forward from one life to the next.
To end his karmic account, he has to be born in a religion that does not believe in the karma theory in his next birth. :~Santthosh Kumaar
All the Advaitic teachings of different Gurus are based on a dualistic perspective.+
The Soul, the Self is God in truth. God in truth is Self-evident. God in truth is not established by extraneous proofs.+
The Advaitic wisdom is free from all dogmas and superstitions. With orthodox people trying to impose their orthodox ideas on their children, staying in the ‘Self’-imposed prison of orthodoxy, without realizing the fact that they, themselves, are on the wrong path, and they think they are on the right path to Moksha. It is time to know the truth that their own inherited religion is full of adulteration with activities barred by the Vedas. Why indulge in non-Vedic activities when they hold the Vedas as the ultimate authority?
The orthodox must remember that for all periods the Vedas are the final goal and authority, the Puranic Gods are non-~Vedic. Non-Vedic Gods and their worship are barred by the Vedas; the Puranas differ from the Vedas; the Puranas are to be rejected without mercy.
Puranic Gods are not God in truth. God with forms and names and attributes is not God in truth.
Lord Krishna himself says Ch ~V: ~ “Those who know the Self in truth.". The last two words (tattvataha) are usually ignored by pundits, but they make all the difference between the ordinary concept of God and the truth about God.
The dualistic worship of "God” is only for the ignorant populace. The God in truth is only Atman, the innermost Self. In reality, there is no duality, no differentiation. Only Atman exists.
Bhagavad Gita Chapter:~ All those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires, they worship many Gods. (7- Verse -20)
Thus, it proves that Gods with form, names, and attributes are not God in truth.
Even Bhagavad Gita says: ~ “Brahmano hi pratisthaham” ~ Brahman (God) is considered the all-pervading consciousness, which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material. (14.27).
When Bhagavad Gita says, God is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material then nothing has to be accepted as God other than consciousness.
The Vedas confirm that God is Atman (Spirit), the Self.
Even the Vedas indicate that the Self is consciousness:-
v Tat tvam asi: -Thou art That “Self is that.” (Sam Veda).
v Prajnanam Brahma: - Consciousness is the ultimate reality (Rig Veda).
v Ayam Aatma Brahma: -The Self is the ultimate truth (Atharva Veda).
v Aham Brahma Asmi: -Self is the ultimate reality (Yajur Veda)
Even Rig Veda: ~ The Atman is the cause; Atman is the support of all that exists in this universe. May ye never turn away from the Atman, the Self. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5)
That is why Sage Sankara said:~ Talk as much philosophy as you like, worship as many gods as you please, observe ceremonies and sing devotional hymns, but liberation will never come, even after a hundred aeons, without realizing the Oneness.
Yajur Veda says:~
Translation 1
They enter darkness, those who worship natural things (for example air, water, sun, moon, animals, fire, stone, etc).
They sink deeper in darkness those who worship sambhuti. (Sambhuti means created things, for example, table, chair, idol, etc.) (Yajurveda 40:9)
Translation 2
"Deep into the shade of blinding gloom fall asambhuti's worshippers. They sink to darkness deeper yet who on sambhuti are intent." (Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Griffith, pg. 538)
Translation 3.
"They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated, eternal prakrti -- the material cause of the world -- in place of the All-pervading God, But those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time." (Yajurveda 40:9.)
So, Yajur Veda indicates that: ~ Those who worship visible things such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater ignorance.
Thus, it indicates that God is without form and attributes and ever free.
Vedic Gods, hardly have any significance in present day Hindu belief system. The Gods and Goddesses important to the Hindus of today are Ram, Krishna, Kali, Ganesh, Hanuman, Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva and the respective consorts of the last three, namely, Saraswati, Lakshmi, and Shakti. None of these deities figured prominently in the Vedic pantheon and some of them are non-Vedic.
The more important religious sects among the Hindus, like Vaishnavism, Saivism and so on, did not have a Vedic origin but had come into existence in comparatively recent times.
Originally Shiva and the cult of the Mother Goddess belonged to the religion of the Indus (Sindhu) Valley people. Vedic worshiper did not use temples and idols as Hindus of today do. For them, the sacrificial rituals were more important than the temple or idol worship.
There is hardly any evidence of a rigid caste system in the Vedas. It is argued that the purushasukta hymn of the Rig Veda (X.90) which is often referred to to give a religious sanction to caste system was a later interpolation.
The Vedas, however, speak of various classes of people, which appear to have been names of professions, and they were not hereditary.
The very concepts of castes by birth, upper/lower castes, superior/inferior castes, outcastes, untouchables, Dalits, etc., are prohibited by the Rig-Veda.
Avatara (‘descent’) of Gods, caste system, were absent in the Vedic religion. Only when the Vedic religion with its own as a distinct with its own sacred texts, rites, rules of social life, beliefs and practices without inter-linking it with Hinduism the true essence of Vedas will be revealed.
Vedic people did not worship Gods and Goddesses. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar
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