Q by N: ~ Santthosh Kumaar you say that the base of the soul is not a religious topic then why r u explain it by Bhagwat Geeta and the bible's verses. Your carrying lines from religious books and also saying that religions are harmful to u.
Santthosh Kumaar: ~ “ My blogs and postings it is only for the seekers who are seriously seeking the truth. please do not misinterpret. I never said religion is harmful but Sages of truth are declared the religion is meant for the ignorant populace.
Sage Sankara means Advaita and Advaita mean Sage Sankara. Advaitic wisdom of Sage Sankara is not theology. Theological Advaita is not Sage Sankara’s Advaitic wisdom.
According to Advaita Vedanta, the Veda addresses itself two kinds of audiences –
1, “The ordinary ones who desire the transitory heaven and other pleasures obtained as a result of ritual sacrifices”.
2, “The advanced seekers who seek to know the ultimate truth or Brahman.”
Thus, the Purva mimam.sa, with its emphasis on the karma kanda of the Vedas, is meant for the first audience, to help lead its followers along the way. However, the Vedanta, with its emphasis on the Jnana Kanda, is meant for those who wish to go beyond form, time, and space.
Thus, those who are seeking truth have to discard the Theological Advaita without mercy to realize the Advaitic truth, which is beyond form, time, and space.
I quote Scriptural citations and also the citations of the Sages of truth only after verification of reality and proved the truth, to point out that the scriptures indicate the truth, which is the Atman, the Brahman, or God in truth.
I do not require any scriptures. It is only to help the seekers to drop what is not needed to realize the truth, which is beyond form, time, and space.
Spirituality is not for the religious-minded people. Spirituality is not suited for religious people. Religious people must tread their chosen path.
As per the scriptures, the three "Ashrams" or stages in life were originally intended for three grades of intelligence:~
Religion: low intellects had to do 'karmas' works, ritual actions, chanting of mantras and indulging in bhajans and prayers, etc.
Middle intellects: Yoga: taking yellow robes, going to caves, ashrams, etc.
High intellects: wisdom who wanted the truth is concerned with no external rites, no prayers or sanyasa, but depend solely on the Soulcentric reasoning for their path.
Thus, the seeker has to choose his path according to his choice. Without intense urge to know the truth and sharpness to grasp the truth, it is difficult to tread the path of wisdom never mix different path with each other and make cocktail because it leads to all sorts of doubts and confusion.
The seeker of truth should be aware of everything that is untrue: stick to the truth, and he shall succeed, maybe slowly, but surely.
If one quotes them before having demonstrated truth, then it is scholasticism.
You have to bifurcate spirituality from religion. There are only a few spiritual insights in the scriptures or books scattered here and there which are signposts which indicate the truth is beyond the realign, which is based on the form, time, and space.
Scriptures are being added to from time to time. This process will go on. There is the final authority among them? One contradicts the other: duality reigns supreme.
Sages of truth restrained themselves, parting the Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana to the mass and only a selected few. It was hidden from the people who were not qualified and receptive to it.
Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana was not written down but was imparted orally to the chosen few. Thus, religion was given to the masses, and knowledge of the spirit was given only to a selected few.
Thus, we find traces of the knowledge of the spirit in the religious books in the form of parables.
Katha Upanishad says: ~ This Atman is attained by him alone whom It chooses. To such a one, Atman reveals its own form. (II -23-P-20)
Sage Sankara said:~Talk as much philosophy as you like, worship as many Gods as you please, observe ceremonies and sing devotional hymns, but liberation will never come, even after a hundred aeons, without realizing the Oneness.
Self-knowledge cannot be attained by the study of the scriptures and intellectual understanding or by bookish knowledge. Therefore, there is no use of studying the scriptures and other scriptures in order to acquire the non-dual wisdom.
Scripture mastery, the force of religious merit- none of these lead to the realization of that Ultimate Truth or Brahman. The ultimate truth is revealed in the clear understanding and realization of what is truth and ‘what is the untruth.
When one realizes the untruth (universe) is created out of single stuff, Self-awareness rises in the midst of duality, exposing the unreal nature of the form, time, and space.
The ultimate truth has to be realized first then only it is possible to know what the scriptures are saying. I do not require any scriptures.
Self-knowledge cannot be attained by the study of the scriptures and intellectual understanding or by bookish knowledge. Therefore, there is no use of studying the scriptures and other scriptures in order to acquire the non-dual wisdom.
That is why Bhagavan Buddha rejected the scriptures, and even Sage Sankara indicated that the ultimate truth lies beyond religion, the concept of God and scriptures.
Katha Upanishad says ~ Fools dwelling in darkness, but thinking themselves wise and erudite, go round and round, by various tortuous paths, like the blind led by the blind. (Ch~ II-5 P-14)
That is why Swami Vivekananda said: ~ “You have to grow from the inside out. None can teach you, and none can make you spiritual. There is no other teacher but your own Soul.”
Sage Sri, Sankara says ~ VC-162- There is no liberation for a person of mere book knowledge, howsoever well-read in the philosophy of Vedanta, so long as one does not give up the false identification with the body, sense organs, etc., which are unreal.
The invisible Soul, the 'Self' reveals ‘what is real’ and ‘what is unreal” when the seeker is receptive and ready. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar
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