Butchers see skin, and the Gnani see being.+

The pursuit of truth is a personal journey. If we sit arguing with each other we are wasting each other’s time. The pursuit of truth is not the pursuit of argument. As a seeker of truth, we need a lot of humility and patience and we have to respect each other and also each other’s views without it, it is difficult to discuss in any forum.

Discussion without leeway for agreeing to disagree causes unnecessary friction, everyone has a point of view and everyone must respect others' rights of whether the choice point made was acceptable or not. Sharing is giving info for the sake of goodness. As with all things, achieving a balance of peaceful communication is established with understanding and patience. Balancing an achievement is harder. It is better for the to seeker express their point of view and leave it at that and also for others to express their viewpoint without passing judgment or opinion without verifying the validity of their viewpoints. It is for the seeker to know whether he is right or wrong himself.

Agreeing and disagreeing will not yield any fruit one has to do his own homework. Personal attacks on each other hinder our realization. It is better to be in silent mode when we do not agree with others rather sit argue with each other. When we argue we miss the link with the subject. Thus other than the subject matter nothing has to be brought in the discussion.

Billions are searching for truth but One in that billion will be able to grasp it and all the ones from that billion are in this group. The inner sage will guide everyone to the ultimate end. :~Santthosh Kumaar

Butchers see skin, and the Gnani see being.

Have you noticed? A shoemaker doesn't look at your face, he sees only your shoes. Actually a shoemaker can know everything about you just by looking at your shoes: How your economic situation is, if you are successful or a failure; how your luck is.... The condition of the shoes tells him.

Your autobiography is written on your shoes - the shoemaker can read it. If the shoes are shiny, if the shoes are clean and new, the shoemaker is happy to meet you. For him your shoes are the proof of your being. A tailor looks at clothes. Seeing how you dress he understands your situation.

All have their own narrow vision.

Only one full of his own being sees being. He has no fixed vision. He has only seeing, darshan.

One more small incident - it is not about Ashtavakra but about Ramakrishna and Vivekananda, but Ashtavakra is involved in it... After this, we will enter the sutras.

When Vivekananda came to Ramakrishna his name was still Narendranath - later on Ramakrishna named him Vivekananda. When he came to Ramakrishna he was extremely argumentative, an atheist, a rationalist. He wanted proof for everything.

There are some things that have no proof - it cannot be helped. There is no proof for godliness: it is, and yet there is no proof. There is no proof for love. It is, and yet there is no proof. There is no proof for beauty. It is, and yet there is no proof.

If I say, "Look how beautiful these ironwood trees are," and you say, "I don't see any beauty - Trees are just trees. Prove it!" it will be difficult. How can one prove they are beautiful? To be beautiful you need a sense of beauty - there is no other way. You need eyes - there is no other way. It is reported that Majnu said, "To know Laila you will need the eyes of Majnu." It is true; to see Laila there is no other way.

The king of his area called Majnu and said. "You are mad! I know your Laila - an ordinary girl, jet black - nothing special. I feel sorry for you, so here are twelve girls from my palace - they are the most beautiful women of the country. You can chose anyone you like. Seeing you cry, my heart also cries. "

Majnu looked at them and said, "There is no Laila among them. They cannot even be compared to Laila, they are not even worth the dust of her feet."

The king said, "Majnu, you are mad...!"

Majnu said, "That may be so, but I must tell you one thing: to see Laila you will need the eyes of Majnu."

Majnu is right. To see the beauty of trees you need an eye for art - there is no other proof. If one wants to know love, one will need the heart of a lover - there is no other proof. And godliness is the collective name of all the beauty, all the love, and all the truth of this universe. For it an unwavering consciousness is needed, a witnessing is needed... where no word remains, no thought remains, no wave arises... where no mental dust remains and the mirror of consciousness is perfectly pure.

What proof?

Vivekananda told Ramakrishna, "I want proof. If God exists then prove it!"

Ramakrishna looked at Vivekananda. This youth had great promise and great potential; much was ready to happen within him. There was a great treasure with which Vivekananda was unacquainted.

Ramakrishna looked into, peered into, the past lives of this youth. Vivekananda had come carrying a great treasure, a great treasure of integrity, but it was suppressed under his logic. Seeing this, a cry of anguish and compassion must have risen from Ramakrishna's heart. He said, "Forget all this.

We'll talk about proof and such things later on. I have become a little old, I have difficulty reading; you are young, you eyes are still strong - read from the book lying there." It was the Ashtavakra Gita.

"Read a little out loud to me."

It is said that Vivekananda saw nothing wrong in this, this fellow was not requesting anything special.

He read three or four sutras and every cell began trembling. He started to panic and he said, "I cannot read on."

Ramakrishna insisted, " Go ahead and read. What harm can there be in it? How can this book hurt you? You are young, your eyes are still fresh, and I am old, it is hard for me to read. I must hear this book - read it out to me."

It is said that Vivekananda kept on reading aloud from the book - and disappeared in meditation.

Ramakrishna had seen great potential in this youth, a very promising potential, like that of a bodhisattva who one day or other is destined to become a buddha. Sooner or later, no matter how much he wanders, he is approaching buddhahood.

Why did Ramakrishna ask that he read the Ashtavakra Gita out loud to him? Because there is no purer statement of truth.

If these words penetrate you, they will start awakening your sleeping soul.

These words will thrill you. These words will fill you with ecstasy. These words will shock you.

With these words, a revolution can take place.

I have not chosen the Ashtavakra Gita just like that. Nor could I have chosen it earlier - I have chosen it after a long wait, after much consideration. There was a time when I talked on Krishna's Gita because there was a crowd around me. For a crowd, the Ashtavakra Gita has no meaning. With great effort I have got rid of the crowd.

Now there are a few Vivekanandas here.

Now I want to talk to those who have great potential.

I will work with those few on whom work can bring results. Now I will cut diamonds. This chisel is not to be destroyed on pebbles and stones. This why I have chosen the Ashtavakra Gita: I have chosen it because you are ready. From Maha Gita